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#21 zocoloco

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Отправлено 07 Июнь 2012 - 04:09

What is the reason of having two identical airguns? (R3's)


Good question !

And a long story......

Now I keep the two for comparison reasons and also for spareparts if needed.........

Sometimes it is difficult to get them from Russia.......

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Отправлено 07 Июнь 2012 - 06:40

I agree with you zocoloco and I know your story that started with order of 2.5 matadors and by the time you were able to get them... they ended up being R3s :voo: .

I am still waiting for my R3 .22 and it has been some time.

At least I have my other toys to play with while I wait.

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Отправлено 07 Июнь 2012 - 18:17

Posted not in English!

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Отправлено 07 Июнь 2012 - 21:11

What is all about appearance and how rifles shoot that?

Сообщение отредактировал toshik: 17 Июнь 2012 - 13:34


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Отправлено 08 Июнь 2012 - 13:17

I Tried to register on http://talonairgun.com - email from mail.ru host locked in the registration, registration with the gmail.com 2nd day still not confirm.
I would like to add something about Cricket, you can overwrite there.

As you can see on the mag/loading mechanism Cricket is the serial number of the product, if it complies with the plant number issue.
Also there is the inscription - "a maximum of 10 bar."
This is done to ensure that the rifle is certified in Russia, as a product "up to 3 joules" - a toy.
And if a policeman will want to check the rifle and see inscription - "10 Bar" on the box mag/loading mechanism and the numbers 100, 200, 300 on the manometer - what would he think?
Beginning with 1200-1300 serial numbers of rifles were put such a pressure gauge.
The second reason, IMHO, that Maverick (chief Kalibr) got complaints of increased air flow, and with such manometer air flow chart more difficult to build. )

Working pressure for Cricket 220-110 bar. Reducer is set to 120-125 bar, while the number of shot 277m/s JSB5.5 1.03g should be 4.5-5 mags (~70 shot).

mechanism in x-ray:


Manometer and Drawing for Quick fitting.

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#26 iv8v

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Отправлено 08 Июнь 2012 - 13:45

Plastic screw compressing striker.
It is not intended to increase the speed, is used for fine-tuning adjustments. Is replaced when upgrading to a metal or brass with a guide. To prevent deformation of the spring and speed stabilization.

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#27 zocoloco

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Отправлено 08 Июнь 2012 - 17:20

Plastic screw compressing striker.
It is not intended to increase the speed, is used for fine-tuning adjustments. Is replaced when upgrading to a metal or brass with a guide. To prevent deformation of the spring and speed stabilization.



Thanks a million for your information !!!! :voo: :voo: :voo:

That's very kind of you........

I'll try to copy it into my comparison thread on the Talon forum........

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Отправлено 10 Июнь 2012 - 17:01

Plastic screw compressing striker.
It is not intended to increase the speed, is used for fine-tuning adjustments. Is replaced when upgrading to a metal or brass with a guide. To prevent deformation of the spring and speed stabilization.



Thanks a million for your information !!!! :voo: :voo: :voo:

That's very kind of you........

I'll try to copy it into my comparison thread on the Talon forum........

:pok:



I have now updated the thread on the Talon forum with your information.


Thank you again !!! :voo:

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Отправлено 10 Июнь 2012 - 18:39

ok.
I apologize for my English, can be wrong name of terms.
For you few words about setting Cricket trigger mechanism (see the picture).
The pic 1 shows standard position connecting rod in not loaded gun.
The pic 3 shows: screw №2 is regulation strength.
screw №1 is regulation sear overlap (working stroke) which can control from hole №4 from pic №2.
(Be careful with these settings. I did little more overlap than wanted :) .)

you right - to adjust free movement trigger rod length change:
increasing the length - increases travel
shortening the length of travel reduced.
with no correct settings are not arming is possible.

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Отправлено 10 Июнь 2012 - 19:11

About cheek-pieces:
what you see on these pictures below - original product. The additional option. Everything else - custom.
Now in Kalibr cheek-pieces "out of stock", recently open new Kalibr plant in the Czech Republic, the possible organizational issues.
Little information about it, I dont know exactly.
http://forum.guns.ru.../30/977165.html

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#31 zocoloco

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Отправлено 11 Июнь 2012 - 17:00

About cheek-pieces:
what you see on these pictures below - original product. The additional option. Everything else - custom.
Now in Kalibr cheek-pieces "out of stock", recently open new Kalibr plant in the Czech Republic, the possible organizational issues.
Little information about it, I dont know exactly.
http://forum.guns.ru.../30/977165.html


Again some very useful information from your side..!!! :voo:

Thank you so much !

I have put some of it up on the other forum. Let us see what the reactions will be........... :;):

More pictures and information to be shared would be highly appreciated. Likewise, you are free to use my own pictures for your own purpose if you wish (no commercial use though).

There are plenty more pictures to be seen in this thread. Just scroll down.....

http://talonairgun.c...pic.php?t=19488


Cheers from Norway......... :pok:

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Отправлено 12 Июнь 2012 - 14:19

If(when) Kalibr in the Czech Republic is working, we will be learn news from you :).

Сообщение отредактировал iv8v: 12 Июнь 2012 - 14:44


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Отправлено 12 Июнь 2012 - 14:41

Would you go to Kalibr forum, guys, to discuss it there?

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Отправлено 12 Июнь 2012 - 14:45

Would you go to Kalibr forum, guys, to discuss it there?


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Отправлено 12 Июнь 2012 - 14:52

Would you go to Kalibr forum, guys, to discuss it there?


It is chain reaction, there reluctantly communicate. here guys talkative and friendly :rolleyes:
On the matador everything is clear, and with cricket everything is confused. Cricket headache, matador quality and reliability :smex:

Сообщение отредактировал ketamin: 12 Июнь 2012 - 15:02


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Отправлено 17 Июнь 2012 - 13:29

This is my last reminder to write here in English only! All non-English posts will be deleted!

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Отправлено 17 Июнь 2012 - 16:29

.....
On the matador everything is clear, and with cricket everything is confused. Cricket headache, matador quality and reliability :smex:

well, maybe with the Khanty-Mansiysk know better! :smex:

Would you go to Kalibr forum, guys, to discuss it there?

and so tenderly? : ) Can specify a purely Russian, where to go and how it will be clear for "brothers" from a hill!!! :lang:

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Отправлено 17 Июнь 2012 - 18:14

well, maybe with the Khanty-Mansiysk know better! :smex:

precisely! it is checked in extreme conditions. cricket didn't sustain :lang:

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Отправлено 17 Июнь 2012 - 23:56

precisely! it is checked in extreme conditions. cricket didn't sustain :lang:

well so there are rifles under the different purposes and tasks - one hunting, others purely city. Also it is not necessary to confuse a horse-radish to a finger!!! :smex:

Alexey, and what we are like two idiots for not we talking about?!!! Have something to say, and I see that you have something to say - there are other topics, there are other sections, there is..... Always ready to argue and talk with a good man!!! :priv: :priv: :priv:

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Отправлено 18 Июнь 2012 - 01:19

Alexey, and what we are like two idiots for not we talking about?!!! Have something to say, and I see that you have something to say - there are other topics, there are other sections, there is..... Always ready to argue and talk with a good man!!! :priv: :priv: :priv:


:smex: :rofl: ok, we finish flood.



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